November 2020


Franz Gilg, COO of Weckerle Holding (Photo: Weckerle)

If the global makeup market was shaken by the COVID-19 pandemic crisis, nothing better describes the German group’s reactivity and flexibility than their impressive capacity to adjust during this period. When consumers turned their backs on lipsticks, the group started to produce their very first protective masks.

The R&D Division of Weckerle Machines quickly developed fully automated processes to produce masks,” explains Franz Gilg, COO of Weckerle Holding. First implemented in China, the concept is now operational in Germany. Today, Weckerle Machines provides machines, while Weckerle Cosmetics produces masks for their customers. The whole group very quickly got familiar with a field which does not have much to do with their historic business.

A “global local production”

Reactivity is probably the group’s key strength: they managed to build up a unique network based on local presence, with plants on four continents (Europe, Asia, North America, and South America) and a 360-degree expertise: machine manufacturing, full-service offering, packaging design and manufacturing, but also product formulation and filling.

One of our customers’ main expectations is a fast time-to-market. And to reduce delivery lead times, one needs short supply chains. If it all comes from China, it’s unmanageable.” This is what Thomas Weckerle, CEO of Weckerle Companies, told Premium Beauty News last year. And his words were visionary: neo-localism is getting increasingly popular. In 2018, the group inaugurated a site in Torrace, California, and in 2019, two new production sites were opened in Ranipur, India, and in Huamantla, Mexico. At the peak of the crisis, the group was able to rely on this “global local production” strategy.

Today, the situation varies a lot from one region to another. In China, demand is growing again. In South America, after a sudden slowdown, direct-selling local players reacted very quickly and the market soon recovered. To better meet each market’s specific needs, we decided to give our subsidiaries even more autonomy,” explains Franz Gilg.

With a production capacity of 25 million units per year, the new French plant, which was completely rebuilt after a fire destroyed the previous site in 2018, was designed to meet all brands’ needs.

Click’N Break

The group’s reactivity is also based on their capacity to innovate. In this field, vertical integration is a significant strength. Over the past two years, the Californian, Mexican, and German sites were equipped with Multi Stick 3 (MS3), the latest generation of casting, moulding, and filling machines, which are more efficient, faster, and more resource-efficient.

As for products, after unveiling Myconic, a 100% single-material lipstick tube entirely made of recycled plastic, at the beginning of the year, Weckerle is now launching Click’N Break, a mini single-use lipstick tube (0.04 ml) designed for consumers to test products in optimum hygiene and sensorial conditions. The single-material pack can be made of recycled PET or biosourced PP, and a biodegradable solution is also under study. The tube is fitted with a both easy and safe cap for perfect hygiene.

These launches are in line with the group’s strategy to adopt circular economy principles: they aim to offer 100% recyclable or reusable packaging by 2025.

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Island boards of health reported 14 new coronavirus cases after the Thanksgiving holiday — the fewest in the past three weekends even as testing continued at a frantic clip and all three down-Island towns are now considered high risk for Covid-19 spread by the state.

In a daily case update issued Monday afternoon, health agents reported two new cases from Saturday, seven from Sunday and five on Monday as of 3 p.m. Of the 14 total new cases, eight were tested at the Martha’s Vineyard Hospital and six at TestMV. The hospital is focused on symptomatic patients and their contacts, while TestMV is focused on asymptomatic individuals.

The 14 new cases Monday brings the Island’s total caseload to 298 total positive laboratory confirmed Covid-19 tests. More than half of those have come since Oct. 25, when the Island experienced its first case surge since the pandemic began. The past three Mondays all saw more than 20 new Covid-19 cases on the Island.

TestMV and the hospital have now combined to perform more than 31,000 coronavirus tests on the Island, with more than 22,000 coming at the high school site. Both facilities have seen long lines for tests, and Quest Diagnostics, which has partnered to operate TestMV, has reported an approximately two-to-three day wait time for test results as case numbers continue to surge across the country.

Hospital turnaround times have been in the 24 to 48-hour range, according to the most recent statements from officials.

According to a daily online report from the hospital, there are currently no patients hospitalized with the virus. A patient with Covid-19 was discharged in good condition last Thursday.

The state Department of Public Health has also classified Tisbury, Edgartown and Oak Bluffs as high risk communities for coronavirus spread as of its report on Friday, Nov. 27, after each town reported more than 25 cases in the past two weeks. The 36 cases reported in Oak Bluffs placed the town on the list for the first time; both Tisbury and Edgartown had previously been on the list for one week. Edgartown reported 38 cases in the past 14 days, while Tisbury reported 33.

According to guidelines from Gov. Charlie Baker, towns on the list for three consecutive weeks must revert back to stricter gathering rules and occupancy limits for theaters, gyms, museums and music venues.

All three up-Island towns did not qualify for a risk assessment, with West Tisbury reporting seven cases in the past two weeks, Chilmark fewer than five and Aquinnah zero. The state considers all six Island towns in the same population bracket, with each having fewer than 10,000 residents.

Statewide case numbers were not available as of 5 p.m. Monday, although the weekend saw an average of more than 2,000 new cases statewide daily — which is on par with totals from the past few weeks. The state now has more than 1,000 patients hospitalized with the virus, and 10,487 deaths.

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DuPont Biomaterials announced its sponsorship of the fashion undergraduate Bachelor of Arts Fashion Design program at Central Saint Martins (CSM) in London. Central Saint Martins is known to be among the best fashion schools in the world, spawning some of the top fashion designers in the past few decades. More than 100 students of different…

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November’s new moon brought a mix of drizzle and snow. Parts of Wisconsin’s Lake Superior shore were still abnormally dry so the moisture was welcome. Between grey days sun rained down. Opening day of gun deer season on Nov. 21 was sunny and mild; the deer cooperated for some hunters. Seasonable temperatures had everyone wondering when the first serious snow would come. In 2019 more than 3 feet were recorded in some places from mid-November to Dec. 2.

Around Chequamegon Bay a new sort of farming has caught on. Two large electric providers have created solar-panel gardens. Recently a group purchase of photovoltaic solar systems brought even more solar electric generation to private homes in the area. Many folks are now farming daylight to make electricity; like other farmers they look to the sun for a crop. Visit for more information.

Thanksgiving has come and gone. There was much to be thankful for but for many also much to be desired. It’s good to see the effort made to feed hungry folks during holidays. But hungry people also need to eat on days that aren’t holidays. With such abundant food produced in our nation how is it so many people still know hunger well?

Harvest is mostly finished, as is fieldwork. Farm stores are still open, some with holiday specials. Local yarn and knit goods, flour, pastured meats, milk, ice cream, preserves, syrup, eggs, cider, beer, wine, spirits, mead and more are available. Visit for more information.

Grass-fed-beef operations report that winter is here. For them winter starts when the cattle leave their luscious green paddocks to begin to feed on hay.

Ships continue to arrive at Port Duluth-Superior to load grain. At mid-season outbound grain shipments were ahead of 2019. The shipping season for ocean-bound ships continues into December; the season for ships on the Great Lakes officially ends Jan. 15. It’s interesting that in our modern era we think humans, not nature, determine the start and end dates of Great Lakes shipping.

This year the deep winter snow that covers bare ground as well as summer triumphs, human disasters and forgotten tools will be especially welcome. Like hibernating bears under the white blanket we hope to awaken to a fresh spring full of promise.

Jason Maloney from Washburn in northern Wisconsin lives between Lake Superior and the orchards and farms of Bayfield County. The retired soldier and educator grew up on a family farm in Marinette County.

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Here’s a collection curated by The Associated Press’ entertainment journalists of what’s arriving on TV, streaming services and music platforms this week.

— Film history fans will get a meal out of David Fincher’s “Mank,” about “Citizen Kane” screenwriter Herman J. Mankiewicz who is masterfully played by Gary Oldman. Shot in gorgeous black and white, “Mank” transports you into the depression era studio system, Upton Sinclair’s bid for governor, William Randolph Hearst and Marion Davies’s elegant parties and to that bungalow in Victorville where the first draft of the classic Orson Welles film was composed. Available on Netflix on Friday, “Mank” is one of the year’s very best films and both a tribute to and searing critique of Hollywood’s golden age. Amanda Seyfried, as Davies, is one of the great performances of the year.

— Another film full of excellent performances is “Sound of Metal,” starring Riz Ahmed as a punk metal drummer who experiences sudden severe hearing loss. The film, which is captioned in English, dives into the world of the deaf community with Ruben (Ahmed) in a way you’ve never seen or heard before. It’s the directorial debut of Darius Marder (a writer on “The Place Beyond the Pines”), who assembled an crack team of sound mixers and editors to create a unique auditory experience to simulate what Ruben is going through as he loses his hearing entirely.

— If $30 was a little steep for your tastes to rent the new live-action “Mulan,” it’ll finally be free for Disney+ subscribers Friday. From director Niki Caro, this adaptation of the Chinese folk tale about a young woman who disguises herself as a man and takes her father’s place in the army, is breathtakingly beautiful, from the stunning landscapes to the colorful costumes. Although it may fall short on the kind of intoxicating story magic that the Disney label signifies, it is worth a watch and may just inspire some curious young viewers to delve into more Asian cinema classics. Also, if you find yourself missing the songs and Eddie Murphy, the animated 1998 version is also available on the service.

— AP Film Writer Lindsey Bahr

— A house is not a home during the holiday season if Mariah Carey’s “All I Want for Christmas Is You” is not blasting – daily! During a normal, non-pandemic year, Carey and her Christmas craziness would be on a holiday tour, bringing joy to fans and lambs in-person. Because live shows aren’t really a thing in 2020, she’s launching a holiday TV special on Apple TV+ on Friday. “Mariah Carey’s Magical Christmas Special” will includes a mix of musical performances and dancing with amination. Ariana Grande, Jennifer Hudson, Snoop Dogg, Tiffany Haddish, Misty Copeland and Carey’s 9-year-old twins, son Moroccan and daughter Monroe, will make special appearances.

— Shawn Mendes released his debut album in 2015 and he’s dropping his fourth effort Friday. “Wonder” continues to showcase Mendes’ growth as a singer, songwriter and performer. The album features the singles “Wonder” and “Monster” with Justin Bieber, which debuted in the Top 10 of the Billboard Hot chart this week. Along with the album is the Netflix documentary called “Shawn Mendes: In Wonder,” which is available for streaming and follows Mendes’ rise and journey over the last few years.

— Christmas came early when Carrie Underwood released her first holiday album in September, and on Thursday she’ll debut a musical TV special to accompany the album. On HBO Max’s “My Gift: A Christmas Special from Carrie Underwood” — conducted by award-winning musical director Rickey Minor — the country superstar is backed by a live orchestra, choir and her band. John Legend makes a special appearance and viewers will get a behind-the-scenes look at Underwood’s 5-year-old son, Isaiah, recording his vocals for their version of “Little Drummer Boy.”

— AP Music Editor Mesfin Fekadu

— “Selena: The Series” is described by Netflix as a coming-of-age drama that follows Selena Quintanilla from talented youngster to musical phenom, aided by her family. A breakthrough star in male-dominated Tejano music, the singer was just shy of her 24th birthday in 1995 when she was fatally shot by a former business associate. The two-part series debuts Friday with Christian Serratos (“The Walking Dead”) as Selena and Gabriel Chavarria (“East Los Angeles’) and Ricardo Chavira (“Desperate Housewives”) among the cast members.

— The 11th and final season of the Showtime dramady “Shameless” debuts 9 p.m. EST Sunday, weaving the pandemic, urban gentrification and personal pressures into the lives of the Gallaghers of Chicago’s South Side. Aging patriarch Frank (William H. Macy) is facing the toll of longtime alcohol and drug abuse, while and Ian and Mickey (Cameron Monaghan, Noel Fisher) struggle as newlyweds. Deb (Emma Kenney) stands ready to give her all to single motherhood and Carl (Ethan Cutkosky) feels the same about his nascent law enforcement career.

— Two respected veterans are behind “A Suitable Boy,” a limited series directed by filmmaker Mira Nair (“Monsoon Wedding,” “The Namesake”) and written by Andrew Davies (“Pride and Prejudice,” “House of Cards”). An adaptation of Vikram Seth’s 1,300-plus page novel of the same name, the 1950s, India-set drama revolves around a university student who’s shaping his identity as his newly independent country does the same. The all-Indian lead cast includes Tabu (“The Namesake,” “Life of Pi”) and Tanya Maniktala. The series debuts Dec. 7, on Acorn TV.

— AP Television Writer Lynn Elber

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The Debenhams Cyber Monday sale is here – and it’s even better than we thought! 

Currently, the retailer is offering up to 50% off on many of their items, including 20% off all beauty (the perfect time to stock up on all your essentials!) and half price many of the most popular perfumes.

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SOLON, Ohio, Nov. 30, 2020 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — At the lowest points in her life, author and poet Deborah Hallal Bradt, R.Y.T., always had her journal by her side. As a Trauma Survivor, Deborah has struggled with self-esteem issues much of her life and was close to suicide several times. Having struggled with prejudice, bullying, depression, anorexia and chronic pain for many years, writing was always her best friend as she found solace in the written word and in her unwavering faith in God and humanity.

Deborah is now bravely sharing her life through her poems in her debut book “Lay Me Down Among the Words: A Poetry Collection by a Trauma Survivor Whose Inner Voice Saved Her Life,” to help others who struggled like she once did know they are not alone. Her soothing and uplifting words will inspire readers to pursue their dreams and to develop a deep love for themselves and their gifts to the world.  Since she was a very young girl, she has used her creativity as a force of healing to channel the most difficult moments into opportunities of growth and resilience.

One could find Deborah singing her poetry on the beaches of Florida where she grew up.  As she delved more deeply into writing and self-expression, she found that she could use the most devastating experiences of her life as gateways into her soul to delve out strength, even when she thought she had nothing left to give. Her writing kept her going in the darkest moments and she found that each time she would write, she came closer and closer to finding true peace, which can only come from deep within. Deborah was diagnosed with depression right after her son, Henry, was born which became a turning point as it was the most amazing day of her life as she now not only had to live for herself but also for her son. She has dedicated numerous poems to Henry as well as shares photos of him throughout the book.

As family is very important to her, she knows there are a lot of mothers that can relate to the struggles she has endured. “Being a mother is the best job I have ever had and, as hard as times get, I thank God every day for my precious son, Henry,” said Deborah. “He is the most important person to me and closest to my heart.”

Deborah has a special interest in those affected by chronic health conditions including depression and chronic pain, however, this book was designed to reach a wide array of readers as she believes every human life matters and all of us have special gifts to share with the world. 

“Through my book, I hope to reach an extensive range of readers, including the underprivileged communities, the homeless, trauma survivors, prisoners, children and adolescents, parents, and those struggling with mental and physical illness and disabilities,” said Deborah. “There is too much division, judgement and violence in the world and I would love for my poems and essays to encourage harmony, joy and peace, especially to people who may feel alone, alienated and misunderstood.”

Deborah is currently working on opening a non-profit called “The Purple Butterfly House Foundation” and portions of the proceeds from sales of “Lay Me Down Among the Words” will be donated there as well as to the Happy Buddha Precious Temple and to help prevent the spread of suicide. 

“Lay Me Down Among the Words: A Poetry Collection by a Trauma Survivor Whose Inner Voice Saved Her Life”
By Deborah Hallal Bradt, R.Y.T.
ISBN: 978-1-9822-4662-4 (sc); 978-1-9822-4664-8 (hc); 978-1-9822-4663-1 (e)
Available through Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Balboa Press

About the Author
Deborah Hallal Bradt, R.Y.T., began her passion for spoken and written word as soon as she was old enough to hold a crayon. Because of her love for music and dance, poetry seemed to flow naturally to her, and she enjoyed dancing while creating her poems on the beaches of Central Florida where she grew up. Deborah has a bachelor’s degree from Florida State University where she studied communications and writing. She has a passion for teaching and the healing arts and is a Certified Yoga Teacher, Reiki Master, Spiritual Teacher as well as a Social Activist. She trained extensively in Somatic Experiencing with Dr. Peter Levine, a pioneer in the field of Somatic Psychology and Trauma Therapy. Deborah resides in Solon, Ohio with her son Henry and husband, Bill. “Lay Me Down Among the Words” is her first published book and she is currently working on her next book, a memoir and self-help book, that will feature poetry as well.

Balboa Press, a division of Hay House, Inc. – a leading provider in publishing products that specialize in self-help and the mind, body, and spirit genres. Through an alliance with the worldwide self-publishing leader Author Solutions, LLC, authors benefit from the leadership of Hay House Publishing and the speed-to-market advantages of the self-publishing model. For more information, visit To start publishing your book with Balboa Press, call 877-407-4847 today.

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Micro-needling at home is not for the faint hearted. Yet, puncturing the skin with tiny needles is one of the most Googled beauty treatments of 2020.

And with good reason, too, according to Amanda Holden, who has experienced the in-office version. “The results have been absolutely amazing,” she wrote in an Instagram post. “I’ve noticed a real plumpness to my skin and it’s much tighter…It’s been the best hour investment for looking at least five years younger.”

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Rico Nasty photographed by Joshua Kissi and styled by Marion Kelly. Hair by Latisha Chong. Makeup by Ernest Rob. Rico wears Fendi dress, Manolo Blahnik shoes, and Kenneth Jay Lane jewelry.

“I feel like I’ve found myself again.” 

It’s a Thursday afternoon, and Rico Nasty is pondering the effects of the pandemic on her life over the past year. She’s speaking to me on a video call from home, in between puffs of the joint she’s smoking. When I first see her, she’s in bouts of laughter triggered by her Zoom background, a stock image of the Golden Gate bridge. But less than 10 minutes later, she tells me how deeply the past few months have affected her. She’s been rocked by this summer’s Black Lives Matter movement and a worldwide racial reckoning, the forced global standstill and widespread uncertainty due to the pandemic. But she’s also figuring out how to take the pauses and moments in between in stride.


Rico Nasty photographed by Joshua Kissi and styled by Marion Kelly. Hair by Latisha Chong. Makeup by Ernest Rob. Rico wears Miu Miu top, Saint Laurent skirt, Manolo Blahnik shoes, and Kenneth Jay Lane jewelry.

Born Maria Kelly, Rico Nasty has chosen to separate herself from distractions and stressors while she gears up for the release of her debut album Nightmare Vacation, due to drop on December 4. Work-life balance, she admits, has been difficult with her schedule. Over the past three months alone, she’s released four singles: earlier in August she dropped iPhone, a thumping, synth-heavy offering produced by Dylan Brady, better known as one-half of electro-pop duo 100 gecs. Next month came Own It, and October saw her team up with Don Toliver and Gucci Mane for the laid-back collab Don’t Like Me. And in the week prior to our conversation, she’s released OHFR?, an ominous track that sees her going back to her roots, with screamo-adjacent delivery, her energetic growl aimed at those doubting her success and income.

The impending pressure of a debut would likely cause nerves for most, but for Kelly, it’s the opposite. She’s jovial and chatty, continuously cracks jokes and excited laughter punctuates most of her sentences. She’s in a good place, mentally—Nightmare Vacation signifies her overcoming what she refers to as two years of “not making what I wanted to make.” 

“I started feeling like I should make what I hear on the radio,” she says. “I was only making those songs to please my A&R, like, does this sound mainstream? By the time the studio session is over, you have a song that you wouldn’t listen to if somebody paid you.”


Rico Nasty photographed by Joshua Kissi and styled by Marion Kelly. Hair by Latisha Chong. Makeup by Ernest Rob. Rico wears Marc Jacobs dress, Lanvin coat, and Gucci shoes.


Rico Nasty photographed by Joshua Kissi and styled by Marion Kelly. Hair by Latisha Chong. Makeup by Ernest Rob. Rico wears Marc Jacobs dress, Lanvin coat, and Gucci shoes.

On Nightmare Vacation, she has returned to making music she believes in, and creating songs that feel authentic. She’s welcoming all possible responses and feels building excitement about getting the project out. It’s an outlook shaped by experience; Kelly is aware of what she’s triumphed over to create the album, and the sense of pride means she’s no longer buckling to criticism. “I look back at my tracklist like, not only did I overcome people trying to tell me what I should sound like, but I overcame a fucking pandemic and was still able to create it,” she says. “I think I’m on the cusp of being ready to just take shit head on, take it for what it is.”

Though just 23 years old, the rapper holds an astonishing seven mixtapes under her belt. She’s garnered masses of fans since 2018’s Nasty certified her as a rap wunderkind. Hit releases like Trust Issues and the energetic Smack A Bitch proved to audiences that Kelly would be an unfamiliar yet lasting addition to rap, with her combative lyrics screamed over rock-leaning production by way of collaborators like Kenny Beats.

For most, the strength of these past releases, plus the fact that Kelly has made a name for herself in the music industry, might inspire a double-take—December’s release will be her first album? But Kelly’s journey in rap extends even further than that. 

The Largo, Maryland native was introduced to music by her father, who originally toured under the stage name Beware and appeared with acts like Jadakiss. “My dad wanted to be a rapper, took me to the studio all my childhood. Now I’m a rapper,” she says plainly. “You’re a product of your environment.”

The two were briefly separated when her father was incarcerated, and she often clashed with her mother over her music. Moving around different schools meant Kelly found difficulty in making friends during her teen years, and she describes her younger self as “a loner.” She embarked on attempts to make friends through the pursuit of recreational activities. “Graphic design, art class, drama class, lacrosse, or some shit,” she lists, explaining how each activity would be quickly dropped in favor of the next. When Kelly eventually took to rapping, skipping school to record her first mixtape and hang with other kids making music, her mother was skeptical of her commitment and worried about her attendance. The polar responses from her parents deeply affected her confidence in her craft. It all culminated when she shared her first mixtape Summer’s Eve with her mom. “I showed her, and she hated it,” she recalls. “She said that I curse too much, she was like, This shit will never get played on the radio.”

But in October of that year, Kelly’s father was released from jail. “When he heard the project, it made my dad cry, he said he was so proud of me.” Kelly talks fondly of how he would accompany her to the studio, protectively standing outside the door while she’d record.” He said that I had potential and a little flow and that I was creative—all the shit I thought I lacked because my mom just wanted me to go to school.”

Though her work has begun to pay off, as she’s plunged deeper into the industry, she says she’s struggled even more with a set of new challenges—namely, being accepted. Kelly’s blend of genres and musical styles, veering from rock to rap to screamo, has left her with fears of being constantly viewed as an outsider. She also feels that her aesthetics—meticulously spiked hair and a trademark penchant for alt, out-there clothing—were stolen by others. It exacerbated the pain, and provided proof of being sidelined by critics who saw her music as “too much.”

“It started making me feel like, so y’all like that but you don’t like me,” she says. “Because y’all take my shit and put it on somebody else—put it on a white girl. Shit, y’all take my shit and put it on another Black woman so that I can be mad at her, knowing damn well that’s not what she fucking do. That shit hurt.”


Rico Nasty photographed by Joshua Kissi and styled by Marion Kelly. Hair by Latisha Chong. Makeup by Ernest Rob. Rico wears Fendi dress, Manolo Blahnik shoes, and Kenneth Jay Lane jewelry.

She suspects the industry’s tendency to ignore her while biting her style likely delayed an earlier album release and set her back creatively. She dealt with writer’s block, running through different styles pushed by her label—EDM, country—which led her to no longer sound like herself. “I was going in the studio and they got writers,” she says. “I mean, I love every writer, they’re creative people. But when they signed me I didn’t have any writers, I went gold off of songs I wrote in 15 minutes.”

During this period of creative struggle, her breakthrough moment came by relying on the ears of those who know her best: her fans. “I always say they have a sixth sense,” she says. “I’d be dropping snippets and they would get no traction, they were like, that’s not you.” She further credits friends in the industry like the rapper KYLE, and Earl Sweatshirt, both of whom advised her to be real with her work and trust her listeners’ judgement. She began funneling the frustration into her music. She pushed back against the discouraging thoughts that would fly into her head while recording. It worked, she says, as a means of “getting her power back.” 

“I stopped trying to make all the songs I was trying to do because I wanted to be accepted,” Kelly says. “And what finally got me accepted was just making the music that I already made.”

It’s evident on the record. The body of work shows where she’s arrived, musically speaking—the album name stems from the idea that she’s taken a vacation from the dark experience of “feeling lost.” “I’m just not afraid of shit no more. I’m not afraid of failing, or not being liked, or of being Black and unapologetic,” she says.

This year, Kelly has reverted back to her old habit of picking up new hobbies and activities. She’s learning how to drive, (and recently got her permit,) watching documentaries, and tending to her pet snake Voldemort and dog Fish. She’s also spent a period of quarantine connecting with family—she’s had the opportunity to spend more time with her 5-year-old son Cameron, a rare occasion in both of their usual lives. Though he’s currently staying with his grandmother while she’s working, she visibly lights up at the mention of his name. “It’s crazy because now, he lives with me. That was something that I really wasn’t experiencing consistently since he was like, three years old.”

For now, the main concern is satisfying his love of Spiderman—and securing his later life as he grows. And it seems that, along with her son, Kelly is experiencing the perks of getting older, too. Her plans for the future are hard to pin down, as her passions are endless; she’s interested in makeup, her merchandise line, and envisions a multifaceted enterprise akin to her idol, Rihanna. But she talks fondly about investing in buildings on the album opener Candy, and through the tiny rectangle on Zoom, shares her dream of creating a dance and recording studio for fellow mothers looking to get into the industry. “I feel like we need to bring a sense of community back,” she says. “Your kid could be downstairs, learning how to play instruments or sing songs. And you can still be whatever you want to be.”

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